Ha ! What a politically involved series of meetings 2.6billion has had - we meet with the Chinese equivilent Ministers in two weeks time courtesey of Dezan Shira & Associates long term contacts in China law & tax so look out for that. Meanwhile, in Delhi, here is our debate with India’s Minister of Commerce, Kamal Nath. Chris Devonshire-Ellis, senior partner of Dezan Shira & Associates international practice, and asks the questions:
Mr. Minister, how do you perceive India’s reforms ?
I believe we are in the secondary stage. First, we have ensured that the regulatory reforms are largely in place and enshrined in law by an act of Parliament. These cannot be changed without debates and an amendment to the acts in question. The secondary stage we face is implementation. This is a big challenge. China is much better than implementing reforms than we are, they are a one party state. But sometimes they rush. We have other issues, including democratic debate, to consider. The second phase is governance. We have to ensure that acts of parliament are implemented. This is the Indian governments huge task.
How does democracy drive India ?
We are all elected. We all have to go home and face our constituents and answer their questions. Usually there are five:
1) How can I protect my land ?
2) How can I get clean drinking water ?
3) How can I get basic sanitation ?
4) How can I get basic health care beyond the local herbal traditional recipes ?
5) How can we get access to education for our children ? (80% of rural Indians drop out of education at age eight)
These are not unreasonable requests. Our goal is to spread increased wealth, and empower our rural areas. It is a moral issue. 65% of Indians live in rural areas, and as a democracy we must listen to them. Our challenge is to spread growth amongst the nation. If we can accomplish this, with such a workforce, India will greatly affect global trade and properly contribute to it.
What about the economic gap between manufacturing and agriculture ?
Agriculture is a problem. We need to create more jobs in manufacturing. This is intended to take some of the stress off un-sustainable agriculture, such as a family of 15 trying to live off 1 hectare, but we need help with this.
So how are the Doha (India’s entry into WTO amongst others) talks going ?
Globally we missed the 2005 deadline. At that time not many nations understood the small print over agricultural reforms. Now we do. Agriculture is the sticking point, that is really all, and it is not confined to India. The developed world subsidises it’s agriculture. This is for different reasons. The EU for example, subsidizes, but has no real intention to sell to India, it is more an EU internal issue. But take cotton. The US is an export aggressive nation and wants to export cotton to India. The US government subsidises US cotton production by 45%. I am happy to import US fruit and vegetables. But I am not happy to import their subsidies. All that said - we are confident of a breakthrough mid-summer this year. Bush has a legacy to leave. To our European cousins I can say we have agreed a reduction in tariffs in imported wine and spirits. (Loud cheers from various sections of 2.6billion journos who heard that).
How is the deregulation of legal services in India coming along ?
We’ve always felt that lawyers can debate issues better than government, so we’ve passed this over to them to deal with in their own industry. There are some domestic regulations that need change. For example, you can only have a maximum of 20 partners in India, and in London it’s 1,000. Consequently the size of Indian practices is diminished. We are looking at ways to both liberalise the Indian domestic market, and when that is sorted, we’ll look at how we can introduce foreign expertise intio the mix.
The retail industry in India is still restricted to foreign investors. Any comments ?
We face a number of challenges here. The main two is a domestic fear that by opening up this market we will loose our Mom & Pop stores, and that only 3% of retail in India is collectively organised. The industry as you describe does not exist on that scale here. Retail in India needs calibration and defination, and we need to ensure that the family store is continued to be passed down the generations from Fathers to sons, from Mothers to daughters. We need investments at the back end for sure but we also need to secure the legacy of the local traders. THis evolution will take time.
Can India’s Judiciary uphold and enforce the Law ?
We have problems here, but not in the essential structure of the courts. You never hear of Indian courts being biased. We have a well proven rule of law. We do have problems in backlogs of work and the courts are jammed up, and that is a problem. We have rule of law here in India and lawyers themselves can be clever and constently delay hearings on technicalities. There is a legal backlog and we are aware of this. But our courts are independent and impartial. We are looking at ways of reforming legal administration with the help of the UK, US and EU. But this will take time. The good news is the process is there !
Minister Nath, thank you for talking to us
Chris Devonshire-Ellis
Senior Partner, International Practice, Dezan Shira & Associates