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		<title>By: Chris Devonshire-Ellis</title>
		<link>http://www.2point6billion.com/news/2009/04/15/pakistan-caught-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place-as-india-refuses-composite-dialogue-process-1287.html/comment-page-1#comment-75618</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Devonshire-Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 06:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys - Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys &#8211; Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 03:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a recent piece on India-Pak trade.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=75797</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a recent piece on India-Pak trade.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=75797" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=75797</a></p>
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		<title>By: New Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Observer! good observation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Observer! good observation</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>India-Pak trade

Careful reading of the article reveals...

Bilateral trade between Pakistan and India will probably fall to US$900 million in the year ending March 31, 2010, compared with $2.2 billion already earned in the fiscal year ending this March 31, according to the New Delhi-based FICCI.</description>
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<p>Careful reading of the article reveals&#8230;</p>
<p>Bilateral trade between Pakistan and India will probably fall to US$900 million in the year ending March 31, 2010, compared with $2.2 billion already earned in the fiscal year ending this March 31, according to the New Delhi-based FICCI.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Devonshire-Ellis</title>
		<link>http://www.2point6billion.com/news/2009/04/15/pakistan-caught-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place-as-india-refuses-composite-dialogue-process-1287.html/comment-page-1#comment-59634</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Devonshire-Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Observer: no real apparent slow down here in Bombay, and Pakistan has always, despite the animosity, been a major trade partner, especially in the Punjab. Read my latest blog entry at www.chrisdevonshire-ellis.com to compare with SH. The China guys hate it but I sit between both stools and see the action. Thanks for chipping in. CDE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Observer: no real apparent slow down here in Bombay, and Pakistan has always, despite the animosity, been a major trade partner, especially in the Punjab. Read my latest blog entry at <a href="http://www.chrisdevonshire-ellis.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.chrisdevonshire-ellis.com</a> to compare with SH. The China guys hate it but I sit between both stools and see the action. Thanks for chipping in. CDE</p>
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		<title>By: Mauryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mauryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The term &quot;Stable Pakistan&quot; has become an oxymoron. Those who run their establishment (read as their ISI and the military) and the ignorant masses who do not see the outside world, have learned to hat India passionately. They perceive India as a &quot;Hindu&quot; nation. Every decision that they make has become India-centric. Having evolved with the anti-Indian psyche, they have reached a stage where they simply cannot accept India as a well meaning nation and a progressive one. Their ignorance on India has been manipulated by their establishment into concocting spectacular lies that have become defacto truths. Here are some examples:

1. Hindus are to be subjugated. They are effeminate. They are weak and one brave Pakistani can handle many of them.

2. Hindus are massacring Muslims and other minorities in India systematically. Muslims are denied chances and are punished for being Muslims. They have no rights and are living as second class citizens.

3. India makes all efforts to destablize Pakistan. They never accepted the two nation theory and they separated East Pakistan for this very reason. 

4. Mujib ur Rehman was an Indian agent who wanted to get to power and so used India&#039;s help in misleading the Bengali Muslims.

5. Pakistan did not lose to India in East Pakistan. Pakistan agreed to the self-determination of their Bengali brothers. And India should do the same in regards to the self-determination of Kashmiris.

6. Pakistan defeated India in the 1948, 1965, 1971 and the recent Kargil war in 1999. Indian records are full of lies.

7. Muslims ruled Hindustan over 800 years. Muslims can never be ruled by Hindus.

8. Pakistan&#039;s economy is drained constantly as India keeps spending beyond its means to buy arms. Pakistan has to spend an equivalent money to protect its integrity.

9. Afghanistan invasion by the Soviet Union was done with India&#039;s request to surround Pakistan from both sides. Thanks to the American allies and the Mujahideen, Pakistan defeated the Soviet Union and derailed India&#039;s plans.

10. India has seven embassies in Afghanistan with the only goal of fomenting trouble in Balochistan, Sindh etc.

11. Lahore attack on Sri Lankan cricketers was staged by India.

12. Mumbai attacks have nothing to do with Pakistan. But the Americans, depending ever more on Indian business, have arm twisted Pakistani establishment to sign on white paper and agree to the demands of India. Mumbai attacks were staged to isolate Pakistan in the international stage.

13. Musharraf is an Indian agent under RAW&#039;s control. No patriotic Pakistani would align himself and his nation against our Muslim brothers in Afghanistan and stop Kashmir struggle for freedom.

14. India is instigating the Taliban to spread and take over Pakistan&#039;s institutions. They are working with the CIA to covertly destabilize Pakistan in order to remove the nukes and divide up Pakistan. 

And so on. Why should India be linient all the time? Not much can be done to people&#039;s beliefs and perceptions. Look at the way they responded to the Mumbai attacks - their media, people and the government officials. 

Pakistan is headed towards an internal turmoil and may splinter up. This will be good for India from a geo-strategic stand point. A set of small nations will not become a threat. And Kashmir problem will disappear on its own. India has to hang in there somehow and protect itself. The rest will happen on its own. Pakistanis have failed to keep a nation and run it with responsibility. They have spent all their time on hatred, violence and wars. So it would be better for them to split up and turn into smaller states. India should probably help accelarate that if the situation for it arises. That is the only thing left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term &#8220;Stable Pakistan&#8221; has become an oxymoron. Those who run their establishment (read as their ISI and the military) and the ignorant masses who do not see the outside world, have learned to hat India passionately. They perceive India as a &#8220;Hindu&#8221; nation. Every decision that they make has become India-centric. Having evolved with the anti-Indian psyche, they have reached a stage where they simply cannot accept India as a well meaning nation and a progressive one. Their ignorance on India has been manipulated by their establishment into concocting spectacular lies that have become defacto truths. Here are some examples:</p>
<p>1. Hindus are to be subjugated. They are effeminate. They are weak and one brave Pakistani can handle many of them.</p>
<p>2. Hindus are massacring Muslims and other minorities in India systematically. Muslims are denied chances and are punished for being Muslims. They have no rights and are living as second class citizens.</p>
<p>3. India makes all efforts to destablize Pakistan. They never accepted the two nation theory and they separated East Pakistan for this very reason. </p>
<p>4. Mujib ur Rehman was an Indian agent who wanted to get to power and so used India&#8217;s help in misleading the Bengali Muslims.</p>
<p>5. Pakistan did not lose to India in East Pakistan. Pakistan agreed to the self-determination of their Bengali brothers. And India should do the same in regards to the self-determination of Kashmiris.</p>
<p>6. Pakistan defeated India in the 1948, 1965, 1971 and the recent Kargil war in 1999. Indian records are full of lies.</p>
<p>7. Muslims ruled Hindustan over 800 years. Muslims can never be ruled by Hindus.</p>
<p>8. Pakistan&#8217;s economy is drained constantly as India keeps spending beyond its means to buy arms. Pakistan has to spend an equivalent money to protect its integrity.</p>
<p>9. Afghanistan invasion by the Soviet Union was done with India&#8217;s request to surround Pakistan from both sides. Thanks to the American allies and the Mujahideen, Pakistan defeated the Soviet Union and derailed India&#8217;s plans.</p>
<p>10. India has seven embassies in Afghanistan with the only goal of fomenting trouble in Balochistan, Sindh etc.</p>
<p>11. Lahore attack on Sri Lankan cricketers was staged by India.</p>
<p>12. Mumbai attacks have nothing to do with Pakistan. But the Americans, depending ever more on Indian business, have arm twisted Pakistani establishment to sign on white paper and agree to the demands of India. Mumbai attacks were staged to isolate Pakistan in the international stage.</p>
<p>13. Musharraf is an Indian agent under RAW&#8217;s control. No patriotic Pakistani would align himself and his nation against our Muslim brothers in Afghanistan and stop Kashmir struggle for freedom.</p>
<p>14. India is instigating the Taliban to spread and take over Pakistan&#8217;s institutions. They are working with the CIA to covertly destabilize Pakistan in order to remove the nukes and divide up Pakistan. </p>
<p>And so on. Why should India be linient all the time? Not much can be done to people&#8217;s beliefs and perceptions. Look at the way they responded to the Mumbai attacks &#8211; their media, people and the government officials. </p>
<p>Pakistan is headed towards an internal turmoil and may splinter up. This will be good for India from a geo-strategic stand point. A set of small nations will not become a threat. And Kashmir problem will disappear on its own. India has to hang in there somehow and protect itself. The rest will happen on its own. Pakistanis have failed to keep a nation and run it with responsibility. They have spent all their time on hatred, violence and wars. So it would be better for them to split up and turn into smaller states. India should probably help accelarate that if the situation for it arises. That is the only thing left.</p>
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		<title>By: New Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>link for India-Pakistan trade relations- http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KC12Df03.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>link for India-Pakistan trade relations- <a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KC12Df03.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KC12Df03.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to know the source of your data on India-Pak trade. In january, it was going on as normal inspite of the hostile feelings after the Mumbai attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know the source of your data on India-Pak trade. In january, it was going on as normal inspite of the hostile feelings after the Mumbai attack.</p>
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		<title>By: New Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely, But the terrorists are genius anti social dirty minds who tries to find the way out to make their evil plans a success. I hope India&#039;s spy satellite approach to combat terrorism is a crisp slap on the faces of the devils.  Good job RadarSat-2 team and Congratulations Indians.
I am not sure about its capability to capture smaller objects than a motor-cycle? I think the future holds the answer..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, But the terrorists are genius anti social dirty minds who tries to find the way out to make their evil plans a success. I hope India&#8217;s spy satellite approach to combat terrorism is a crisp slap on the faces of the devils.  Good job RadarSat-2 team and Congratulations Indians.<br />
I am not sure about its capability to capture smaller objects than a motor-cycle? I think the future holds the answer..</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Devonshire-Ellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Devonshire-Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite right, in fact they launched it yesterday - the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle, and India&#039;s first with microwave capabilities, which means it can define objects more clearly. Its main function is weather, but it&#039;s acknowledged surveillance is also an integral part. Its currently at an orbit of 550km above the earth, at an inclination of 19 degrees. If you get your binoculars out, you can see it watching you. The project was fasttracked after 26/11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite right, in fact they launched it yesterday &#8211; the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle, and India&#8217;s first with microwave capabilities, which means it can define objects more clearly. Its main function is weather, but it&#8217;s acknowledged surveillance is also an integral part. Its currently at an orbit of 550km above the earth, at an inclination of 19 degrees. If you get your binoculars out, you can see it watching you. The project was fasttracked after 26/11.</p>
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