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Aug. 14 – The Indian government has been forced to step into the furor caused by a quasi government-backed Chinese website that has called for the dismemberment of India to protect Chinese interests in the region by issuing statements saying it’s relations with Beijing were peaceful.
The offensive article posted on China International Strategy Net was entitled “China can Dismember the so-called Indian Union with One Little Move” and described how China views India as a regional and global competitor. It then goes on to suggest the deliberate removal of India as a power by instigating support for Indian separatist movements to bring about a collapse of the state.
India would then revert to a collection of 20 to 30 sovereign states, somewhat akin to the old, pre-British system of regional ruling maharajas.
The article was written under the pseudonym Zhanlue. The website itself is managed by Kang Lingyi, who hacked into U.S. government websites following the bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade in 1999, according to The Financial Times. Sites such as his are encouraged by the government in order to fuel nationalistic support although they are not considered official mouthpieces.
India has faced separatist movement for decades, in Kashmir, with Pakistan insurgents said to have been long financed by China, and in Arunachal Pradesh, which China considers to be part of Tibet. China blocked an Asian Development Bank loan to India for infrastructure projects in the region earlier this year.
The article comments “there cannot be two suns in the sky. China and India cannot really deal with each other harmoniously.” According to DS Rajan, the article is seen in India as an attempt by China to speak with two voices. Rajan, director of the Chennai Center for Chinese Studies told The Financial Times that China’s “diplomatic interlocutors have always shown understanding during their dealings with their Indian counterparts, but its selected media is pouring venom on India in their reporting.”
The Indian government statement said that the article was “an individual’s opinion” and “does not accord with the officially stated position of China on India-China relations.”
The essay has appeared at a time when Chinese media and certain government factions are known to have been acting in manners not officially endorsed. The Australian government has had to request that Beijing, “reign in its diplomats,” after several of them actively took part in protests against the Melbourne Film Festival which included a film depicting the life of exiled Uighur leader Rebiya Kadeer was due to be shown.
After organizers rejected a request from the Chinese Embassy in Canberra not to show the film, hackers shut down the organizer’s website, disabled the online booking section and posted pictures of decapitated kangaroos on the domain. Film festival organizers also received threatening phone calls.
Clearly, elements of Chinese society both home and abroad are getting out of hand in their nationalistic fervor. It will be interesting to see how far Beijing wishes to go to reign in these disturbing social actions towards other nations.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Well , the article seems to be an individual opinion on disintegrating India. But I would like to remind that though India has many internal problems like separatist movements (NAXALS) , huge population and troubling nations like Pakistan , Sri Lanka etc Indians always stood and will stand united in case of any foreign aggression whether direct or indirect such as this one.
The second thing I would like to mention that the person who has written this article has a vary shallow knowledge and understanding of Geo- Politics, world history and lacks understanding about India. The “GENTLEMAN” talks about conflicts between India and China instead of talking and seeing these two nations as emerging asian economies of which both the countries can talk great advantage and bring themselves under the umbrella of DEVELOPED NATIONS.
I am lack of time right now but will comment more asap
August 15th, 2009 at 5:50 am
Chris,
You are getting more and more pathetic. According to who that website is a “quasi government-backed” website? There is all sort of garbage on the Internet, including many Chinese language sites. Certainly not everything everyone said can be representative of the opinion of the Chinese government. Says who the Chinese government “encourage” this kind of nationalistic content on the Internet? Did you just pull this out of your ass, Chris?
The Indians need to grow up. If this were to happen to the Chinese and if the Chinese had been up in arms you people would have laughed at the Chinese for their immaturity, paranoia and insecurity. No double standard please!
Sure you are bull on India and bear on China. There is nothing wrong with that. Again, you might as well pull your firm out of China and change the focus of this blog to India only.
August 15th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
This action is indirectly attacking the American visit of the US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton,the Chinese are not aware of the strategic ties which have taken place between the US and India.Hence this reaction.Indians are emotional people and have taken the Chinese too seriously on this issue.America realizes there are two emerging suns in the Asian Sky the US interests should get baked and not burnt.The game of divide and rule has worked wonders again!!
August 17th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Again, it’s a bit of nonsense that has attracted rather more attention than it deserves. However, it’s also true the Chinese lately have been bullying other nations somewhat. Now we see a bit of a backlash. A storm in a cup of Darjeeling.
August 17th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
An Asia dominated by China would be rather unpleasant for muslims, including the Pakistanis. Rather amusing seeing the Pakistanis (who are racially Indian) attempting to ride the Chinese tiger.
August 17th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I think you’re right Ram, China takes a dim view of religion and is waking up to the extremist threat posed on it’s Western borders. Muslims don’t really want to be living under the Chinese states ideas of expressionism or freedom of choice. Plus China is now engaged in intelligence sharing with India over Islamic extremism. Rock and a hard place for Pakistan possibly.
August 18th, 2009 at 5:35 am
The Chinese are a pragmatic government, a pragmatism borne of the scientific thinking encouraged by Mao. On the other hand, Pakistan is weighed under with irrationalism and superstition. It’s peoples are Indic and yet it is presiding, nay, gleefully participating in the elevating of the Han Chinese to the supreme masters of Asia over their southern Indic neighbours….disproportionately so!
Can you see where this is going Erc because I can. And when this plan is fully deployed, it will be too late for the Pakistanis to turn back the clock. Welcome to the impending age of technological colonialism in South Asia. Divide, conquer and rule.
August 18th, 2009 at 5:37 am
PS. Pardon my misspelling of your name above, Eric. Typo.
Ram
August 18th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
“Technological Colonialism in South East Asia” thats a nice turn of phrase Ram. There appears to be some merit to it as well as regards China and India – with India getting very nervous about Huawei’s telecoms products and management in India, as we reported here “Indian Only Management for Telecoms Businesses” http://www.2point6billion.com/2009/08/13/%e2%80%9cindian-only%e2%80%9d-management-for-foreign-invested-telecoms-businesses-1784.html and here “Huawei Gear Examined For Trojans” http://www.2point6billion.com/2009/05/21/india-telecoms-to-examine-huawei-gear-for-trojans-1333.html
Thanks for your comments guys. – Chris
August 19th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Oh please Pfeffer,
Get your facts right. The Chinese broach no bad publicity whatsoever let alone criticism of any kind, internet or otherwise. In fact the Aussies have just had to warn the Chinese to draw in their horns over their conduct concerning an exiled East Turkistani leaders visit to Australia.
China has this rather immature schoolyard notion that all of life is a race and that they have to win each and every encounter! Consequently it’s hardly any surprise that there are mutterings such as these over there, blogging notwithstanding. That style of government makes for pointlessly competitive behaviour which benefits no one in the end.
Indians are not as driven as the Chinese. That may or may not be a good thing depending on your perspective. Those are facts however, just as China’s tendency to compete is a fact and something I have to objectively recognise notwithstanding my subjective and perhaps incorrect view that it is rather immature.
In the spirit of maturity, I believe that it’s time both countries recognised that we can cooperate and prosper together notwithstanding our particular foibles.
August 19th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Pfeffer – I would kindly ask you moderate your language on this blog and resist making personal attacks on those whom you do not agree with. This is a forum for sensible debate not a blog for antagonizing others.
As for my firm, we are bullish on both India and China as a matter of fact, and expect to be establishing additional new offices in China next year. We already have nine, so that’s hardly an indication of bearishness.
Rams comment above “In the spirit of maturity, I believe that it’s time both countries recognised that we can cooperate and prosper together notwithstanding our particular foibles”. is a more accurate representation of what my practice and this blog believes as opposed to the “Only one or the other” attitude you appear to display. Thank you. – Chris
August 19th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
It is not difficult to detect a veiled sense of Westerners’ not so secret wish to want to belittle China & its system while hyping India’s potential. This is alright as Chinese know intuitively that China & the West have a deep-rooted old score to settle once the pendulum of power tilt in the former’s favour. What Asians must be wary of is the time-tested old tectics of attempting to pit fellow Asians against each other so that the purported Asian Century will not come about thus prolonging the Caucasian Century to time indefinite. It is not too severe a criticism to label the West as perpetual trouble makers knowing fully well that most of this world’s problems were created & continued to be carried over to the present time. Sad to say, I must say that the West definitely want Asians to fight Asians while they shall profit by supplying arms to both sides. The leopard has thus far not changed its spots!
August 19th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Asian Unity
A united Asia is only viable when there is an understanding on all sides that a truly united continent presupposes a multipolar one. Its all well and good decrying the intentions of Europe whilst on the other hand slavishly emulating it culturally, but that does not excuse the internecine squabbling between China and India with China playing to an international audience as self appointed regional power. An Asian focus calls for an Asian commitment and we would do well to take a leaf from the EU’s book.
August 19th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Hi Asian Unity, I find your comments over the issue somewhat curious given the West had nothing to do with this particular incident. It was a Chinese website making somewhat outrageous statements concerning the demise of the Indian Union. Unless you can see otherwise, I can’t see any Western mischief in the example under discussion. – Thanks Chris